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你好，

我提前向很长的帖子道歉！！！！

从我评论过的信息中，Xpress模型（我正在研究联想的产品）将最多支持4个节点。另外，没有保护域。

让我们假装我是多个客户的云提供商，然后我在我的4个节点域中托管了他们的（域/文件/print/email/sql）服务器。我想在VM备份软件中使用（Acronis/Storagecraft）。这些产品将其备份图像存储到NAS/共享中。

如果我设置了第二个3节点XPRESS模型，该模型是存储“重型”运行Acrocolis文件服务，作为我的备份图像的NAS/共享目的地，您是否可以想到有任何限制会阻止/限制我这样做？

现在，我们使用Storagecraft并将其保存到RAID 10的Windows存储中，我担心写信将无法处理I/O？

我猜想3个节点Xpress AFS将很容易处理密集的I/O写入。在周末，完整的备份运行，并且在一周中仅递增。...如果有帮助...。

提前致谢，
G
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最好的答案乔恩2016年8月15日，16：29

RE Backups<\/b><\/u>
\nif you run VMW for example, and storagecraft pulls backups over the VMW VADP API, its exactly the same on Nutanix as it is on any other platform.
\n
\nHowever, keep in mind - Storagecraft does not have Nutanix level storage integration, meaning pulling data directly from Nutanix rather than from the hypervisor (VMW, etc). CommVault is the only provider that does that.
\n
\nRE Xpress<\/b><\/u>
\nWork with your Lenovo and Nutanix account teams to validate that your business qualifies for Xpress.
\n
\nEither way though, a lot of these concepts are the same across all of our software\/editions\/models\/etc.
\n
\nRE RAID\/AFS<\/b><\/u>
\nAs you may know, Nutanix doesn't use RAID, we use something known as Replication Factor, which conceptually from a data storage perspective 2 copies of data stored (like raid 10)","className":"post__content__best_answer"}">
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    \n
    \n I apologize in advance for the long post !!!!
    \n
    \nFrom the information I've reviewed, the Xpress Models (I'm looking at Lenovo's offering) will support a maximum of 4 nodes. In addition there is no Protection Domain.
    \n
    \nLet's pretend that I'm a cloud provider for multiple customers, and I host their (Domain\/File\/Print\/Email\/Sql) servers in my 4 node domain. I want to use an (Acronis\/Storagecraft) in VM backup software. These products store their backup images to a NAS\/Share.
    \n
    \nIf I setup a second 3 node Xpress Model that is storage \"heavy\" running Acropolis File Services, as a NAS\/Share destination for my backup images, is there any restriction that you can think of that would prevent\/limit me from doing this ?
    \n
    \nRight now we use StorageCraft and save to a Windows Storage NAS that has RAID 10 and I'm concerned that writing to will not be able to handle the I\/O?
    \n
    \nI'm guessing that the 3 node Xpress AFS will easily handle intensive I\/O writes. On weekends, the Full backup runs and during the week only incrementals run....if that helps....
    \n
    \nThanks in Advance,
    \nG","quoteUsername":"CTI","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote","Share":"Share"}}}">

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    乔恩
    秩
    UserLevel 6
    徽章 +29
    - 感谢您的伸出手，对不起，我们的回应缓慢（我们通常会在一天之内回应一切，过去一周非常忙）

    RE XPRESS-保护域
    实际上，Xpress版做具有用于群内快照和单位点DR的保护域（这意味着一个Xpress群集复制到另一个Xpress群集）。

    这与Xpress的采购边界保持一致，Xpress仅限每个客户的两个集群。

    请记住，XPRESS专门针对SMB客户，该客户与具有大型数据中心的中型市场/商业/企业客户有意不同，可能需要复制回总部。

    为云提供商重新XPRESS
    如上所述，Xpress通常针对SMB客户，正如您提到的，每个群集限制确实具有4个节点。

    通常，这与我们遇到的大多数云提供商不符，尤其是当您考虑随着时间的推移扩展时。如果您遇到了一个情况（作为提供商），而需求增加了4个节点可以提供的情况，那么您将无法简单地添加第五个节点，而是需要制作一个新群集（这是3个节点最小值）。

    购买传统的Nutanix NX，Dell XC或Lenovo HX产品，您会更好，随着时间的推移开始缩小。这不仅使您可以灵活地使用ScaleOut，而且还可以使您可以从软件的角度访问您的心脏所需的每个功能，并具有诸如Ultimate和Prism Pro之类的软件版本。

    重新备份（通常）
    当然，只要它支持您选择的虚拟机管理程序（我猜是VMW？），那么您就可以使用Acronis，然后在发送数据的任何地方真正取决于该备份应用程序。

    就是说，如果您确实有两个Nutanix簇，那么从RTO角度来看，使用内置的快照和复制功能实际上会更容易，因为这将消除对第三方备份到次级群集的需求。

    也就是说，快照不是档案（在任何存储系统中），因此，如果您需要存档（想想索引，长期保留等），那么是的，您需要使用第三方工具。

    AFS作为备份目标共享
    如果您确实决定将AFS用作备份商店，那么只要Acronis支持SMB 2.1 NAS（我猜它确实如此），并且物理群集AFS正在运行，则该工作量应该很好。您想贯穿IO和吞吐量的量。

    如上所述，我建议您仅考虑使用内置的快照和复制保护域（即使在Xpress中也可以使用），并节省了额外备份产品的开销。
    乔恩·科勒|Nutanix工程技术总监|Nutanix NPX＃003，VCDX＃116 |@jonkohler |如果有用的话，请荣誉！
    \n
    \nRE Xpress - Protection domain<\/b><\/u>
    \nActually, Xpress Edition DOES<\/b><\/i> have protection domains for in-cluster snapshots AND single-site DR (meaning one Xpress cluster replicating to another Xpress Cluster).
    \n
    \nThis is aligned with the procurment boundaries for Xpress, which is limited to two clusters per customer.
    \n
    \nKeep in mind that Xpress is specifically targeted for SMB customers, which is intentionally different from mid-market\/commercial\/enterprise customers who have large datacenters and possibly a multitude of ROBO sites that need to replicate back to HQ.
    \n
    \nRE Xpress for Cloud Providers<\/b><\/u>
    \nAs I mentioned above, Xpress is generally targeted at SMB customers, and as you mentioned, does have a 4 node per cluster limitation.
    \n
    \nThis generally doesn't align with most cloud providers we come across, especially when you think of scaling out over time. If you run into a situation (as a provider) where demand increases over what 4 nodes can provide, you wouldn't be able to simply add a 5th node, instead you'd need to make a new cluster (which is 3 node minimums).
    \n
    \nYou'd be much better off procuring the traditional Nutanix NX, Dell XC, or Lenovo HX products, starting small, and scaling out over time. This not only allows you to be flexible with scaleout, but also gives you access to every single feature that your heart desires from a software perspective with software editions like Ultimate and Prism Pro.
    \n
    \nRE Backup (in general) <\/b><\/u>
    \nSure, you could use Acronis as long as it supports the hypervisor you chose (I'm guessing VMW?), and then wherever that sends data is really up to that backup application.
    \n
    \nThat said, if you DID have two nutanix clusters, it would actually be way easier from a RTO perspective to use the in-built snapshot and replication features, as that would eliminate the need for that 3rd party backup to a secondary cluster.
    \n
    \nThat said, snapshots are not archives (in any storage system ever), so if you need archive (think indexing, long term retention, and so on), then yes, you'd want to use a 3rd party tool.
    \n
    \nRE AFS as a backup target share<\/b><\/u>
    \nIf you did decide to use AFS as a backup store, it should be fine with this workload as long as Acronis supports SMB 2.1 NAS (which I'm guessing it does), and the physical cluster AFS is running on is sized appropriately for the amount of IO and throughput you want to run through it.
    \n
    \nAs I mentioned above, I'd recommend you consider just simply using the in-built snapshot and replication protection domains (which you can use even with Xpress) and saving yourself the overhead of an additional backup product.","quoteUsername":"Jon","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote","Share":"Share"}}}">
    C
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    徽章 +11
    嗨，乔恩，

    感谢您提供的出色信息，我将在联想的网站上重新访问信息。

    我应该对我的信息进行更多量化，对此感到抱歉.....
    我们希望建造可能最多的200台高级机器，为客户提供私人云，如果我们能做到这一点，我们将很高兴。

    到目前为止，我的参考材料一直是https://lenovopress.com/lp0504.pdf

    我正在与联想（我们也是联想的转售商）合作，我们与SMB客户打交道，因此我们希望拥有20-40个客户端，每个客户端每个客户端都有2-3 VM。

    备份 - 对于备份，我应该说，我们使用Storagecraft（类似于Acronis）进行存档，并且它确实支持SMB，FTP作为目的地。我需要能够恢复数据和完成最多3周的完整系统。我仍然会看到快照可以给我的，如果Storagecraft有能力阅读快照。

    AFS进行备份 - 我对SMB世界中的大多数备份目标有个人的不喜欢，RAID是唯一的选择，在大多数情况下，RAID 10为备份提供了最多的I/O。因此，在RAID 10配置中有20-30 TB的备份成本高昂，可能与3个节点Xpress一样昂贵。

    再次感谢，

    G
    \n
    \nThanks for the great info, I will revisit the information at Lenovo's site.
    \n
    \nI should have quantified my info a bit more, sorry about that.....
    \nWe're looking to build maybe at the most a 200 virutal machines, private cloud offering for our clients, we'd be happy if we can do that amount.
    \n
    \nMy reference material so far has been this https:\/\/lenovopress.com\/lp0504.pdf<\/a>
    \n
    \nI'm working with Lenovo (we are a Lenovo reseller as well) and we deal with SMB clients, so we're looking to have a between 20-40 clients that each have 2-3 VM's per client.
    \n
    \nBackups - For backups, I should have stated, we use Storagecraft (similar to Acronis) for archiving and it does support SMB, FTP as destinations. I need to be able to restore data and complete systems up to 3 weeks back. I will still see what snapshots can give me and if Storagecraft has abilities to read snapshots.
    \n
    \nAFS for backup - I have a personal dislike for RAID and in most backup targets in the SMB world, RAID is the only option, and in most cases RAID 10 provides the most I\/O for backups. So have a 20-30 TB of backup in a RAID 10 config is costly, probably as costly as 3 node Xpress with equivalent..
    \n
    \nThanks again,
    \n
    \nG","quoteUsername":"CTI","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote","Share":"Share"}}}">
    乔恩
    秩
    UserLevel 6
    徽章 +29
    重新备份
    例如，如果您运行VMW，Storagecraft将在VMW VADP API上拉备份，则在Nutanix上与其他任何平台上的备份完全相同。

    但是，请记住 - Storagecraft没有Nutanix级的存储集成，这意味着直接从Nutanix而不是从管理程序中获取数据（VMW等）。Commvault是唯一这样做的提供商。

    重新xpress
    与您的联想和Nutanix帐户团队合作，以验证您的业务有资格获得Xpress。

    但是，无论哪种方式，这些概念中的许多概念在我们的所有软件/版本/模型/等中都是相同的。

    重新突袭/AFS
    如您所知，Nutanix不使用RAID，我们使用的是称为复制因子的东西，从数据存储的角度来看，这些因素是2个存储数据的副本（例如RAID 10）
    乔恩·科勒|Nutanix工程技术总监|Nutanix NPX＃003，VCDX＃116 |@jonkohler |如果有用的话，请荣誉！
    RE Backups<\/b><\/u>
    \nif you run VMW for example, and storagecraft pulls backups over the VMW VADP API, its exactly the same on Nutanix as it is on any other platform.
    \n
    \nHowever, keep in mind - Storagecraft does not have Nutanix level storage integration, meaning pulling data directly from Nutanix rather than from the hypervisor (VMW, etc). CommVault is the only provider that does that.
    \n
    \nRE Xpress<\/b><\/u>
    \nWork with your Lenovo and Nutanix account teams to validate that your business qualifies for Xpress.
    \n
    \nEither way though, a lot of these concepts are the same across all of our software\/editions\/models\/etc.
    \n
    \nRE RAID\/AFS<\/b><\/u>
    \nAs you may know, Nutanix doesn't use RAID, we use something known as Replication Factor, which conceptually from a data storage perspective 2 copies of data stored (like raid 10)","quoteUsername":"Jon","translations":{"Common":{"like":"Like","unlike":"Unlike"},"Forum":{"Quote":"Quote","Share":"Share"}}}">

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